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59 suddenly stops charging?

Started by Cadillac Jack 82, February 22, 2024, 11:02:38 PM

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Cadillac Jack 82

Everything is new on the car including wiring. While testing both the battery and gen they seem okay. Guess the Standard 35 amp voltage regulator just crapped the bed?  Made it home but those lights were dim. Thoughts?
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

bcroe

Every time my 62 stopped charging, it was the GEN
brushes, regulator was OK.  Easy to check. 
Bruce Roe

Cadillac Jack 82

Does this mean I need to take apart the Gen?  I shot dust off in there and that didn't change anything.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

Michael Petti

Test the generator and you will know. I think it should be 13.5 or 14 volts output if I remember correctly.

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

#4
Does the idiot light come on at all? How about when the key is on but engine isn't running?
1st thing would be to go ahead and flash it. If still no, then test the generator without the regulator. I think you ground the field wire, but Google that to be sure. If the generator is good it should run away with rpm. Then check the ground on the regulator.  Then clean the points in the regulator (battery disconnected of course).
There may be other troubleshooting tips in the manual.
Good luck
Jeff R
Jeff Rose
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

Dave Shepherd

Quick check on the gen is to momentarily  ground the field terminal on the gen., it would go to full output say 14-15volts., this eliminates the regulator.

Cadillac Jack 82

Well after further testing its the Gen. Shame because it's been fully rebuilt and restored. My question is what would cause it to suddenly crap out?  I ordered from a different vendor this time and hopefully this time no more boo boos.  I'd like to enjoy my 59 and not have a pretty lawn ornament...
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1948 Buick Roadmaster 76S Sedanette
1959 Cadillac CDV
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1940 Chevy Coupe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1964 Cadillac SDV
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

dplotkin

Quote from: Dave Shepherd on February 23, 2024, 11:28:29 AMQuick check on the gen is to momentarily  ground the field terminal on the gen., it would go to full output say 14-15volts., this eliminates the regulator.
Except that on an AC car with a double contact regulator will burn up the contacts. Disconnect F wire from gen and ground F post as above.

Dan
56 Fleetwood Sixty Special (Starlight silver over Dawn Grey)
60 Buick Electra six window
60 Chrysler 300 F Coupe
61 Plymouth Savoy Ram Inducted 413 Superstock
62 Pontiac Bonneville Vista
63 Chevy Impala convertable
63 Ford Galaxie XL fastback
65 Corvette convertable 396
68 Chrysler New Yorker

Dave Shepherd

Never had to do that, musta got lucky. Lol

bcroe

If the 2 wires to the generator were disconnected, an ohm
meter should read near zero from the main output terminal
to the case ground (through the brushes and armature).  If
it reads open circuit, brushes are gone.  Bruce Roe