1950s 1959 Cadillac exhaust tip question

[Cadillac Jack 82]

So the exhaust is in but hangs very low in spots.  The brackets are tight and the exhaust is too but it looks like a mess.  They also didnt add the flex pipe up towards the exhaust manifold.  To make matters worse I test drove it and it sputtered and sounded like a tractor.  No acceleration whatsoever.  Brought it back in for them to correct it but needless to say I will NOT use them again. 

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

I didn't think there was a flexible pipe after the Manifold.   Just a separate flexible covering to contain heat away from the feet.

Bruce.

[TJ Hopland]

Sputtering now doesn't seem like a good sign.   I'm almost afraid to hear how that happened.

[Big Fins]

Did you replace the heat riser or use a spacer in place of? I just had the pipe made longer to compensate for the heat riser space. If you did reuse it, was it free moving? It may be causing too much back pressure especially if you did the manifold crossover block off.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

Heat riser is on there and functioning.  Is it possible that when they installed the exhaust, they caused it to be blocked?  I just dont get why the car runs like garbage now.  It ran wonderfully when I dropped it off.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

I'm also starting to wonder if Waldrons gave me a system that was not properly bent.  I'm reading of a lot of issues on other forums regarding the quality control of the bends.  This would make sense as there's parts of the exhaust that hang so low it looks as if its some two bit hack job from bubba.

[Big Fins]

Exhaust is one of those things that has to be made to fit the car, with the car in their possession. The car is on a drive-on rack and everything can be properly fit with new hangers, clamps and all welds painted so they won't rust.

Living in the desert, I don't know why you would want the heat riser in there, but it's your car.

[Clewisiii]

My waldrons exhaust is perfect. It was actually a surprise to me how good it was. And 61 is a single exhaust with a welded cross over.

To be able to have two bolt flanges line up and fit perfect with the bending cutting and welding across the two pipe sections is amazing to me.

[Clewisiii]

Random question. Did your shop try to weld the sections together from waldrons?  Or are they all fit and clamped together like original.

[Clewisiii]

Do you have photos from Below. I am also wondering if they tried to route the exhaust under the frame cross supports rather then through them.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

I don't have photos sadly as the car was off the lift.  I've instructed them to use only the shop manual for reference as they didn't beforehand.  They clamped everything together as instructed, however, as I told them to NOT weld it at all.

[Clewisiii]

One side from 61. 59 is the same bend pattern but is a smaller pipe.

61 only uses 4 exhaust hangers counting the rubber sheet through the frame. 59 has 10, 5 per side since there is no cross over pipe that supports the weight in front of the muffler.

[Clewisiii]

At first I thought I had a bad bend where the pipe runs along the frame torsion tunnel. But when I set the resonator and adjusted the pipe going over the rear end the pipe pulled away from the tunnel and strained out.

Now your could be off. Everyone makes mistakes. But I would look at twist or adjustment between the pipe sections first.

I drove to waldrons to pick up my pipes. Photographed the place and tools. There are two women who work up front taking orders. Then there is the owner and one other guy in the back making pipes. I think they are Amish or Mennonite. The shop is filled with original exhausts that he uses as his patterns for making new pipes.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

Thank you for the photos they're of great help.  The car is located about 20 minutes from me so I can swing by on Friday to check it out when I'm off work.  I'm wondering if they didn't route it properly somehow.  If they did then its a matter of finding a shop that can tweak it to fit properly.  Waldrons website does state that they're not responsible for fit and that it will be the customers cost to fix that...

[59-in-pieces]

One of the moderators must be finished punishing me.

VOILA = now the post click & drop... shows up.

As you may be able to see the exhaust tip length of pipe seems shorter than yours.
And it should be clear that the tip is cut parallel to the ground - not straight across or at a 45 degree angle.

There is a close-up view of the braces at the drop down areas behind the bell housing - one for each side - a most.

Then there are pics of generally how and where the braces are attached on either side.
Keep in mind that if you will be adding the spiral wrapped sheathes, the placement of the braces will be slightly different - see a previous posting of mine showing the original sheathes and brace placement.

Have fun,
Steve B.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

I'm really starting to think that my kits just poorly bent.  Everything from my memory is that everything is in the right place.

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

One of the moderators must be finished punishing me.

VOILA = now the post click & drop... shows up.

Have fun,
Steve B.

G'day Steve,

If you are referring to me, I think I have found the reason why the Click and drop is sometimes missing.

If you reply to a message by hitting the "Quote" button, then that access is missing,
BUT, if you hit the Reply Button, the Click and drop function is displayed.

I had come across the problem before, and now I fully understand how it works,
thanks to yourself.  Now, if I want to quote anyone, I use the Reply Button, and
then copy what I want to quote, and then insert the "quote" and "unquote" words
at the beginning and end of the passage I want to quote.

Bruce.

[Cadillac Jack 82]

Okay talked to the shop today.  They said the exhaust noise I'm supposedly hearing is due to the vent tube at the engine?  This doesn't seem to make sense since it never made any noise before.  Any ideas?

Also have an appointment for a local custom exhaust shop.  Guess I'm going to have to fork out another 700 bucks to get it to sit right...

[Big Fins]

Okay talked to the shop today.  They said the exhaust noise I'm supposedly hearing is due to the vent tube at the engine?  This doesn't seem to make sense since it never made any noise before.  Any ideas?

Also have an appointment for a local custom exhaust shop.  Guess I'm going to have to fork out another 700 bucks to get it to sit right...

ROTFLMFAO!!!  They just showed their intelligence level.

[Clewisiii]

OK hang on. Are you using the correct exhaust hangers. Because if you are the rear of the resonator IS in the right spot because it is a straight pipe. You cannot incorrectly bend straight. That does not speak to the rest of the system. But you have only shown a tailpipe angled down behind the bumper.