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Strange call today

Started by Big Fins, February 08, 2025, 05:03:18 PM

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Big Fins

Has anyone here ever heard of Cadillac Cream Puffs out of Greenville S.C.? I got a call today from that number asking if I still had a car for sale or wanted to buy one. Very hard to understand the caller.

I looked at my posts for the stated date and I show nothing being posted by me for the date he said the post was made. I was very vague and the caller eventually hung up.

Wondering how I get a call on my business phone when that number isn't listed anywhere with any forums of club that I'm a member of. People are getting weirder by the day.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

harry s

There is a website for Cadillac Creampuffs in SC. The owner Bob Williams is in his mid nineties and has been in the car business for most if not all his life. For the past many years he is what I would call a "deal maker" in that he solicits sellers and find buyers for nice mostly Cadillacs. I think most of his prospecting is word of mouth and combing ads. I know of a number of people including club members that have dealt with him and I think his son is also involved. 
He's not a scammer. I'm not endorsing or recommending him just telling you what I know.
Harry
Harry Scott 4195
1941 6733
1948 6267X
2011 DTS Platinum

Big Fins

Thank you, Harry. The caller, while sounding very shaky, very well could have been the person you describe and being in his 90's.

I just found it very strange that he knew what kind and color of my car and he called on a number that is only on my business signage and business cards. Either way, Misty isn't for sale...Yet! I have a few more driving years left in me.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

druby

The person you're referring to is Bob Williams in SC. I don't know how he got your information other than searching through the CLC directory or somebody told him about your car. He can be very persistent ! He is a broker not a "buyer", he searches out cars for customers that want a certain year car. Check out his website and make sure there is not a photo on his site. He falsely advertised my car to buyers & posted photos when at the time my car was not for sale. I had threatened legal action if my car was not removed from his site, which he did. If you don't want to deal with a broker then I suggest you keep away from him. Again you may not hear the last from him as he's persistent as hell !
1949 Cadillac 4DR Sedan
1952 Cadillac Convertible
1953 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
1959 Cadillac Fleetwood

Cadillac Jack 82

Dan thats overly concerning...if hes a CLC member doing that his membership should be reconsidered.  Just my .02
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1934 Harley VD 74ci "Rosie"
1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
1950 Cadillac CDV "Doris"
1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Coupe
1955 Cadillac CDV
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1964 Cadillac SDV

and a bunch of others...

Big Fins

Time to get my shovel out and do some digging. Though my avatar clearly states what the car is and the color. I'll have to check the directory for other info.

Persistence doesn't really bother me. That's what the number blocking app is for on the phone.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Art Director

The directory does not list colors, only body style numbers. You can go into your online membership record and remove your cars and even your listing from future directories.
Tim Coy
CLC Southwestern Regions Vice President
Art Director, The Self-Starter, International Membership Directory
Life member, Rocky Mountain Region
CLCMRC Benefactor #102

1963 Six-Window Sedan de Ville
1972 Fleetwood Brougham - RIP
1988 Sedan de Ville - RIP
2001 Eldorado ESC - RIP
2003 DeVille DTS - sold

jwwseville60

Bob Williams is a snake oil dealer. Steer clear.
Lifetime CLC

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

#8
You just got a call yesterday? 

He had been warned years ago to cease contacting CLC members soliciting sales "on the arm" of their cars. It stopped for a while but apparently it didn't take hold. I was annoyed myself when he once posted images of car of mine on his site that I had sent him while under the impression he was interested in the car for himself. I only discovered it when he called months later to say he had a buyer for the car but first wanted me to get a number of items corrected before a buyer he had would accept it. (The car was priced according to the repairs needed).

It was in the middle of winter and we had just gotten a snowstorm. I politely told him the car was tuckered away from the elements and it would be impossible to get the car tended before the spring by my mechanic who's the only one I entrust with my cars. He then did some searching in my locale for alternative mechanics supposedly specializing in Cadillacs. He called again with the name of another shop (which was actually a used car dealer) around 30 miles away who apparently was willing to work on the car immediately. I bluntly told him I wouldn't trust that outfit to fix a baby's rattle nor was I about to take the car out in this weather. If his client wants the car, they're going to buy it the way it is or not at all. Period.

What really irritated me is that he expected me to through all the work of getting a car all sorted out and accept the agreed price plus the repairs at my cost. So my time is free? I don't think so! And if the repairs went wrong or something happened to it, who's problem would that be?

At any rate, the matter will have to be dealt with more strongly if he persists.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

druby

I'll also add, I was in the hospital when persistently called about selling my car after telling him numerous times I didn't want to sell it or was in a position to deal with anybody about selling my car. He didn't take no for an answer. He continues to ask members about other people's cars and then proceeds to bug the hell out of them. He put "feelers" & "finders fees" out there to members. Fast forward, I threw an outrageous number at him about my vehicle thinking he would leave me alone, didn't work. I sent him 70 photos of my car, described it to him, pointed things out that were not correct along with issues of the car. Mind you he was purchasing the car for somebody else. He agreed to my price, and his customer agreed to his price which was absolutely crazy if he correctly described my car. In turn his customer was extremely upset when he received the car. What did Bob do, he gave his buyer my contact info and the buyer demanded that I refund some of his money. Bob never disclosed to him the things I had listed about the car ! Stay as far away from him as you can ! To me he's a con artist in the car business !!!
1949 Cadillac 4DR Sedan
1952 Cadillac Convertible
1953 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
1959 Cadillac Fleetwood

Carfreak

Fins,

He called on your mobile number listed in the Directory or home phone? 

Enjoy life - it has an expiration date.

Big Fins

Quote from: Art Director on February 09, 2025, 12:19:12 PMThe directory does not list colors, only body style numbers. You can go into your online membership record and remove your cars and even your listing from future directories.

And change everything up due to one old pest? Nah! He won't be around much longer.  ;)

Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

harry s

...he's actually 97. Hustling Cadillac creme puffs must be his secret to longevity.    Harry
Harry Scott 4195
1941 6733
1948 6267X
2011 DTS Platinum

Big Fins

He's trolling the cars wanted forum today.  ::)
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille