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Replacement Radiator Recommendation

Started by dbzsjones, February 17, 2025, 11:20:38 AM

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dbzsjones

I'm working on my 1961 Series 62 and need a radiator, the original is gone.  It appears most of the aftermarket have a straight bottom outlet as opposed to the original curved outlet.  However, I found this one at Radiator Express https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product/radiator/cadillac/1961/series%2062/base/64l-v8/230555/1320477
and was wondering if anyone has experience with this brand and can offer an opinion on the product.
Thanks,
Del

Big Fins

Reading the description, it is pretty much straight forward. That's a lot more than you get from most companies these days. I have no experience with them, I used Cool Craft for my 59 radiator.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

TJ Hopland

US Radiator I think is your only other option and I think the difference with them is you get to select core types from original to slightly updated to the most high tech depending on what blend of look and performance you are going for.

https://usradiator.com/radiator-finder?make=Cadillac&model=All+Models+1961-74&_year=1961
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Clewisiii

Don't know if it helps but I like pictures. Original Radiator with AC showing lower coolant lines.

I debated if I want to try to recreate the markings someday.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

After Re-core. I paid $500 to have it re-cored Locally

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The new copper end plates did not have the holes for the radiator overflow pipe.

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I very delicately cut holes avoiding penetrating the tubes.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Michael Petti

I did mine for about the same price locally. Has worked well.

TJ Hopland

73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Clewisiii

"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

dbzsjones

According to Radiator Express their copper/brass version is an exact stock replacement built to factory blueprint and made to order.  At $660 it sounds like a good buy if re-core is about $500, probably higher out here in LA, and I'd still need to source tanks.

Big Fins

I'm surprised the re-corer didn't coat the unit with the anti-corrosive paint before returning it to the customer.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Clewisiii

Quote from: Big Fins on February 19, 2025, 02:46:24 PMI'm surprised the re-corer didn't coat the unit with the anti-corrosive paint before returning it to the customer.

He asked if I wanted him to. I said no since I had to cut tge holes on the end. Plus he admited they just use rustoleum.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Big Fins

I guess times change. Radiators used to be coated in a heavy, almost asphalt pitch based coating before they were returned to you. You had to wear gloves putting them back in because you couldn't get that stuff off of your hands.

I would think the Rustoleum would look a lot nicer with a smoother finish.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

TonyZappone #2624

I am surprised that there is so much concern about replacing radiators.  I have had many radiators recored at local shops, these last 60 years.  Why would you want to replace tanks and fittings, usually they are good shape.
Tony Zappone, #2624
1936 Pierce-Arrow conv sed
1947 Cadillac Conv cpe
1958 Cadillac conv
2025 Chrysler Pacifica Pinnacle
2025 Chrysler Pacifica Pinnacle

Jay Friedman

Quote from: TonyZappone #2624 on February 20, 2025, 06:48:10 AMI am surprised that there is so much concern about replacing radiators.  I have had many radiators recored at local shops, these last 60 years.  Why would you want to replace tanks and fittings, usually they are good shape.

I agree with Tony. I've always been able to get them fixed at local radiator shops.
1949 Cadillac 6107 Club Coupe
1932 Ford V8 Phaeton (restored, not a rod).  Sold
Decatur, Georgia
CLC # 3210, since 1984
"If it won't work, get a bigger hammer."

Clewisiii

Dels issue is he does not have the original radiator. So paying for a radiator, then possibly paying to have it recored is more expensive then buying a new replacement.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

TJ Hopland

A radiator shop is a pretty rare thing these days so for many people a 'local' shop just doesn't exist.  Aluminum plastic pretty much took over in what the early 90's?  So demand went way down so they were not expanding and bringing in new talent or equipment.  I believe regulations also make it difficult for many of them to keep going and with less demand they just didn't bother making changes to comply. 

I have not had one done for maybe 6 years now.  Just did a quick search and that shop looks to have closed 5 years ago.  I remember having trouble finding that shop at the the time because the one I had used previously had closed.  I got 7 results but without digging too deep I'm gonna guess at best maybe 2 of the results may actually be real radiator shops, the others kinda have that smooth marketing targeted search kinda feel to them at first glance.
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

dbzsjones

If I had an original radiator, I'd definitely be looking to re-core it.  Unfortunately it went missing while the car was in storage.  Technically 2 went missing.  My guess is they went out the back door and off to a recycler  :(  I went looking for an original and found a set of tanks on eBay for $100 plus $35 Shipping.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235958228170

Then I still need to find a shop in So Cal that will re-core it for a price that makes it competitive to the new radiator.  While my latent OCD tendencies make me want to use as much original equipment as possible, I also need to remember this car is never going to Pebble Beach. I'm restoring it to drive and enjoy, so cost effective quality parts are my goal.

TJ Hopland

Let us know if you find anything in your area.  I think the only positive you have there is one of the higher concentrations of classic cars.   
73 Eldo convert w/FiTech EFI, over 30 years of ownership and counting
Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Clewisiii

I used a radiator shop near my home. I found a radiator shop near my work whose front sign said Radiator Repair. Out of curiosity I stopped one day to ask about recoring my radiator. They said they do not do that. Only new replacements. I had to comment that there is a definition difference between repair and replacement.
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Big Fins

There is definitely a different education system today.
Current:
1976 Eldorado Convertible in Crystal Blue Fire Mist with white interior and top. (Misty Blue)

Past and much missed:
1977 Brougham de Elegance
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille