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Strange noise after cold start ('66 Eldorado)

Started by Julien Abrahams, April 08, 2025, 01:18:24 AM

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Julien Abrahams

A friend of mine has a '66;Eldorado that I got running and driving last year after being in storage for almost 30 years.Car runs well, but now has developed a strange noise that appears sometimes after a cold start. It goes away after about 5 mins of running.
He made a video for me to have a listen. I find the noise pretty strange. It is a california car, so it has the A.I.R. system. What could this be?
1951 Buick Eight special
1954 Cadillac series 62
1967 Cadillac Sedan De Ville HT
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1979 Opel Kadett

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73 Coupe deVille
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Julien Abrahams

The AC is off. The AC is most likely not charged anymore, and compressor is not locked. I believe the compressor electrical connection is disconnected.
1951 Buick Eight special
1954 Cadillac series 62
1967 Cadillac Sedan De Ville HT
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1979 Opel Kadett

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

I don't see a video, but what does it sound like? Ticking, rubbing, buzzing, hissing?
Both sides, front/rear?
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Julien Abrahams

I reposted the video, so hopefully it works now.
It is more like a swooshing, grinding noise. Hard to explain.
1951 Buick Eight special
1954 Cadillac series 62
1967 Cadillac Sedan De Ville HT
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1979 Opel Kadett

"Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364

From what I hear Just sounds like a motor with a few miles on it warming up.
Greg Surfas
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66 Coupe deVille (now gone to the UK)
72 Eldo Cpe  (now cruising the sands in Quatar)
73 Coupe deVille
75 Coupe deElegance
76 Coupe deVille
79 Coupe de ville with "Paris" (pick up) option and 472 motor
514 inch motor now in '73-

Cadillac Jack 82


Sounds almost like the fan blade striking the radiator.  That's definitely not an engine noise.
Tim

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1948 Buick 76S "Lillian"
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1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"

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1937 LaSalle Coupe
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1964 Cadillac SDV

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TJ Hopland

I would agree, not an internal engine issue.  Frequency seems a little high but how about the 'heat riser' valve?
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Somewhat recently deceased daily drivers, 80 Eldo Diesel & 90 CDV
And other assorted stuff I keep buying for some reason

Big Fins

Disconnect the belts one at a time and listen to it. That sounds like an alternator bearing or water pump bearing. Does it have an A.I.R. pump on it?

The engine itself sounds normal. I wouldn't touch that. It's an accessory or maybe even the torque converter, by the whirring sound it makes.
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1976 Eldorado Convertible
1972 Fleetwood Brougham
1971 Sedan de Ville
1970 de Ville Convertible
1969 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 Sedan de Ville
1959 Sedan deVille

Michael Petti

Just a thought, but could your fan blades be hitting the transmission cooling lines when cold?

Julien Abrahams

Good suggestions that we can try. After listening a couple more times I also was thinking something in the line of bearing issue i the A.I.R. pump. Removing the belts one by one would be a good way to isolate the problem. Not sure about the fan blades.How to check if it is coming from the torque converter?
1951 Buick Eight special
1954 Cadillac series 62
1967 Cadillac Sedan De Ville HT
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1979 Opel Kadett

Michael Petti

The tranmission lines and/or their metal ends will show wear spots.