Antoinette Blue?

[Joe Bento #20081]

I like it!

[Joe Bento #20081]

Well, I have been going around and around with tower paint and they are stumped about how to make Antoinette Blue.  Even with the BASF formula that Lou provided (thanks Lou!), they cant seem to make a go of it.  So here are my questions:

1) Has anyone else used Tower to get Antoinette Blue?  If so, just e-mail me so I can have Tower look it up via your records.

2) Has anyone used anyone else besides Tower to get this color?  If so, whom?  

I need to get this squared away fairly quick.  I want to get the firewall painted before I put the engine back in

[art woody]

Did you go to autocolorlibrary.com like Lou suggested? They have the formulas for most and  will mix it for you in any paint you want, they even send a test card with the sample of the actual mix sprayed on. Otherwise you can send them a sample of the color you need and they will match it. I would imagine lacquer was original but it depends on what you have already sprayed on as to compatability, I would probably stay with that at least for the firewall. (i.e. lacquer, bc/cc. acrylic enamel, urathanes.)

[Bill Ingler # 7799]

There has been some 23 replies to your request for Antoinette and you are still asking for help? As you know Antoinette Blue is a very very deep blue, almost black. Go down to your locale PPG store, ask them to look at their paint sample book which probably goes back to the early 60s. Look at the Mercedes colors for 69 and look for midnight blue.Use this as a guide and pick out another dark blue. Buy a quart of each and have your painter spray a sample of each, put it in sunlight and choose the one you think looks black with just a shade of blue.I did it that way for my 47 in Antoinette Blue. I got it as close to what I thought it should be, who is to say that it is not Antoinette Blue. I used the BS/CC method, not lacquer.

[JIM CLC # 15000]

06-13-06
JOE B I have not used Tower paints, but I can "feel your pain".
I had my 38 La Salle repainted black, before I had it repainted, I found-out that paint color #2, which was on the data plate, was Antoinette-Blue, but since my car was Black and I liked black, but I would not object to Antoinette-Blue, I told the paint shop to be on the look-out for any blue tint as they were removing the old paint.
Later, when I got the car back and it was black, I asked the body-shop owner if he found any blue on the car. as I would not have been disappointed had he painted it Antoinette-Blue. Later, while cleaning the transmission-cover I detacted a hint-of-blue on it.
I know someone posted the make-up of Antoinette-Blue,  But I would say that 7/8 Black and 1/8 Dark Blue would be about right. It is so dark it is very easy to think that it is black.
Good Luck, No judge will know, JIM

[Joe Bento #20081]

Just so we are clear, I live in a very rural part of north central Texas, so there is no "locale (sic) PPG" store (unless Wal-Mart counts). Nor do I "have" a painter to do a mix for me.  I could go to a random body shop and ask for something that resembles "Midnight Blue", but who knows what I will end up with.

That is why I am looking for as much guidance as possible.  I hope I am not troubling anyone.

[Joe Bento #20081]

Tower Paint called.  

They think they have found a formula that will work.  They are going to mix up a batch and send me one can (Enamel I suspect).  They want me to test out that can, and if it is good enough, they will replace the remaining 5.

Unfortunately, I will be out of town for the next 2 weeks so I wont have a result until I get back, but at least I am moving in the right direction.

Thanks for everyones help!

Joe

[Porter]

Joe,

Apparently you are using rattle cans of acrylic enamel, obviously without the gloss hardener additive.

I guess if what you sprayed is subject to enough heat it will have cured sufficiently for you to scuff that down with some 320 grit and respray it.

What are your plans for the entire car ?

After the paint subject gets kicked around here you will see even the old timers here like Bill Ingler or Ralph Messina go with the BC/CC urethane, go with the best paint.

Porter

[Ralph Messina CLC 4937]

Watch it buddy. Im gettin a patina but I can still see well enough to read the message board.........

Ralph

[Porter]

Gee Ralph,

I was just using your intelligent choice of premium urethane BC/CC for your black 66 Brougham as an example.

I did my 1990 Chevy Van with gray lacquer primer and acrylic enamel back in 1999, after all that prep work not a good choice, urethane will outlast enamel twice as long, lacquer ? Fuggetaboutit, single stage solid color urethane is the same thing, solid paint color. The BC/CC will give you a mega gloss, your Brougham must be a glossy SOB, fit for a Mafia Godfather limo, marone, LOL.

Im an old timer myself, 50. LOL

The urethane clearcoat is tough as steel, just try to wetsand that stuff after a one week cure with 1500 grit, brutal. And it has the superior UV ray durability, a no brainer choice for paint.

Porter