Laurie's 1970 Fleetwood Brougham Restoration

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

It was chilly, but we got it! I understand the paint and interior codes, the rest???
And I think I'm replacing the battery cables too. Reproduction or....? There's supposed to be a bar that goes over the battery, didn't see anything around the battery to suggest that could/should be there.
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Laurie?

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

OK, I need guidance here.. went to the AC Delco sight and got options on the condensor and points, please tell me which ones I should order?

Condensor - AC Delco# D204 "HD condensor, 68-74"
                    AC Delco# U208 "all, 65-72"


Points -        AC Delco# D106P "all, 68-73"
                    AC Delco# D116 "all, stock perf version, 65-74"
                    AC Delco# D582A "all, high performance version, 65-74"

I don't have a clue what I'm doing here guys, very appreciative of any and all guidance, thanks!
Laurie!

[cadillacmike68]

"They have a 'kit' now with the condensor and points together, good thing?"

NOT a good thing.  Some here have found these Delco (Chinese?) combination points and condenser items to be bad out of the box --- including me, on two separate occasions.  I will not/would not use them, period.

Another good reason, for me, to go electronic. 

Here is another option worthy of consideration ---
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CADILLAC-472-500-PRO-SERIES-Small-Cap-Black-HEI-Distributor-Coil-Spark-Plug-Wire/191789428878?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

This is an HEI unit but smaller than the GM HEI since they keep the coil separate (included in the kit).  Same size as your stock unit which eliminates the belt clearance problems on your year engine that occur when a GM HEI is added.

I've not had a problem with Uniset points & condenser in the past, but others have. They are easier to put in, and easier to get close to correct when first installing, just match the length of the adjustment screw to the old one and the car will start. Then you can adjust by feel or with a dwell meter. These GM allow you to adjust while the car is running with a 1/8 allen wrench via the slotted door in the cap. The key is to get  points with the hole in the center of one of the contacts. Those are the better made points. Unfortunately ACDelco sells both types. On Rockauto.com, the more expensive one is one I'm referring to. Whatever that part # is, you can look it up on amazon or elsewhere or your local shop.

I'll use either, I have both in my spares boxes, but will prefer the Uniset .

[cadillacmike68]

Laurie,

I think there was a hold-down that used a lever, but I can't remember. That bar in the front is to keep it from falling out.

Black cables for both sides, the thickest you can get, like 2 gauge.

Someone who know more will tell you the paint, top and color codes and the options. The options list is not All the options on the car, just the major ones.

[cadillacmike68]

I thought we were talking about your Fleetwood...   

[Bobby B]

Laurie,
Hi. Knock yourself out.....
                                Bobby

Compliments of Ralph Messina:

http://www.rrrclc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/CLC-Color-Database-2017-03-20.pdf

                                                   

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

OK, I need guidance here.. went to the AC Delco sight and got options on the condensor and points, please tell me which ones I should order?

Condensor - AC Delco# D204 "HD condensor, 68-74"
                    AC Delco# U208 "all, 65-72"


Points -        AC Delco# D106P "all, 68-73"
                    AC Delco# D116 "all, stock perf version, 65-74"
                    AC Delco# D582A "all, high performance version, 65-74"

I don't have a clue what I'm doing here guys, very appreciative of any and all guidance, thanks!
Laurie!

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

Thanks guys! 

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

I thought we were talking about your Fleetwood...   

Well that's easy...

[TJ Hopland]

I would go for the D528A.  It looks like its all copper or at least all copper plated plus its got the lubrication wick.

Condenser I don't see the U208 but the D204 looks alright.

[Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373]

I am not sure where you are, but you may want to keep the cold in mind. I would check to be sure you can/should do it in the cold with a cold metal roof.
Jeff

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

I am not sure where you are, but you may want to keep the cold in mind. I would check to be sure you can/should do it in the cold with a cold metal roof.
Jeff

Agree completely Jeff. Hoping to start the body/roof in late March, the temps should be better then.

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

I can make this easier.. the U208 is no longer being made.

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

Guys the Ark needs a condensor, note how its missing. Cheapest place to get one? Used is OK, all info greatly appreciated.

[Bobby B]

Three on eBay right now.....
                            Bobby

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

Laurie,
You certainly did not ask, but that radiator is going to give you grief at anything above 80 degrees outside, and especially when you have the AC functional. These motors need every "ounce" of radiator they were born with.
Greg Surfas

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

Laurie,
You certainly did not ask, but that radiator is going to give you grief at anything above 80 degrees outside, and especially when you have the AC functional. These motors need every "ounce" of radiator they were born with.
Greg Surfas

Its been 'working' fine... but what do you suggest? Laurie?

[cadillacmike68]

I would also go with the D582A points as well. The D116 and D118 uni-set should be OK too, but the D582A and D204 look like the best heavy duty combo.

In general the parts with a D are better than the ones with a C in the front.

I might need to take that back. The C349 cap is better than the D308R cap. Not sure on the two rotors.

[V63]

I would retrofit a ‘modern’ cross flow condenser to it. They are much more efficient...especially with available modern refrigerant.  Cost would be around $110 for a brand new one.

I had a bunch of OEM ones, left over from conversions above. I scrapped them figuring no demand.

[Cape Cod Fleetwood]

I had a bunch of OEM ones, left over from conversions above. I scrapped them figuring no demand.